00:25:02 Lisa Mayotte: Where is this taking place? 00:26:18 Debbi Hegstrom: Highpoint Center for Printmaking SEPTEMBER 17 - DECEMBER 4, 2021 00:26:43 Manju Parikh: Where is Highpoint center? 00:27:11 Kris Berggren (she/her): 912 W Lake Street Minneapolis 00:27:22 Jean London’s iPad: Lake street, just past Lyndale 00:27:27 lindathain: what is the name of the exhibit? 00:27:36 Manju Parikh: Thanks. 00:28:28 Debbi Hegstrom: I believe it's on the other slide, which Kara will show 00:31:23 Lisa Mayotte: What time will Delita be there? 00:31:30 Kris Berggren (she/her): Thanks, Jean Ann. I can’t wait to see this show! 00:33:07 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): Aeronauts 00:33:56 Vicki Klaers: Kubuki Masks 00:34:04 Manju Parikh: Determined 00:34:05 Kris Berggren (she/her): impervious 00:34:06 Cara Richardson: Wise, looking into the beyond. 00:34:08 mary: they are sleek 00:34:09 stephmcnally: dignified 00:34:11 Nan McRae: Confident, resolute, proud 00:34:17 Carreen Heegaard: amime 00:34:18 Barbara Proeschel: futuristic 00:34:19 Jennifer: Calm & peaceful 00:34:29 Kay Quinn: Expressionless, cold, exotic 00:34:30 Margo: strong, fierce 00:34:32 James Eastman: Powerful, defiant 00:34:35 Kutzi Priest: Focused 00:34:36 Jan Heasley: they remind me of our Japanese Guardians 00:34:37 lindathain: Open eyed 00:34:38 Holly Stoerker: regal 00:34:57 David Fortney: Fierce. Determined. Purposeful 00:34:57 Bill W.: Fierce body language 00:34:58 nancykelly: Confident, poised 00:34:58 Naomi H: serene and courageous 00:35:02 Lisa Mayotte: Attentive, staring with strong eye contact. Showing power and lack of fear. 00:35:05 Andrew Hong: Assuring 00:35:08 Kate Christianson: stoic 00:35:10 john bordwell: androgynous, 00:35:13 Antra Pakalns: Serene ,not male or female Antra 00:35:15 Kristin H.: Does he have a book associated with his art? 00:35:21 mary: very focused 00:35:27 maryannwark: serious and focused 00:35:30 Debbie: Masked 00:35:33 Diana Beutner: graceful 00:35:40 Lyn: Complex, but simplified 00:35:44 Carolyn Silverstein: bold, defensive, cinematic, martial 00:35:45 Therese: controlled, quiet confidence, knowledgeable 00:35:46 Sue Hunter: protective 00:35:51 Terry Nadler: Graceful, authoritative, advancing to some destination. 00:35:55 Kathleen Steiger: fierce, determined, brave 00:36:02 Louise Hertsgaard: Enigmatic/ theatrical/ reminiscent somehow of Samurai 00:36:05 Alice Faribault: powerful 00:36:05 Lyn: Combative, but attractive 00:36:21 Therese: remind me of japanese temple warriors 00:36:25 Rafael Tarrago: I find them fierce and graceful. Jagg looks somehow fiercer. Gage looks more graceful. 00:36:46 Rafael Tarrago: Rafael 00:38:01 Lyn: Phonetically, the names are reversals of each other. 00:38:58 Vicki Klaers: That’s an interesting observation! 00:42:27 Therese: mirror images of each other 00:42:42 Manju Parikh: similarity of expression, clothing, gestures 00:42:44 Terry Nadler: Their stances mirror each other 00:42:49 Jennifer: trong posures 00:42:58 Lyn: Interesting you say that, the video next to this does include mirror imagery. 00:43:10 maryannwark: symmetrical images, same size, colors. 00:43:21 Kathleen Steiger: twins- similar facial features and clothing. 00:43:28 mary: They are so elegant and surprisingly large. 00:43:45 Lyn: Wouldn’t this be great to compare with the Japanese Now figures 00:43:46 Kutzi Priest: Male and Female 00:43:47 Jan Heasley: swirling movement of their costumes 00:43:51 Jennifer: Deliberate and strong postures. Black hands are similar to super hero’s attire, mask-like facial markings 00:43:58 Carolyn Silverstein: similar features on faces and clothing designs. 00:44:10 Andrew Hong: I couldn’t find any symbols or sign that they are twins!! The face markings are more of a tribe design. 00:44:10 john bordwell: graceful 00:44:15 Bill W.: Heroes: faces are assured 00:44:24 Louise Hertsgaard: Their strengths seem super human. Warrior stance/ battle head dress 00:44:28 Therese: hero robes, super hero garb 00:44:33 Elizabeth: Love to compare with Japanese Guardian figurres 00:44:59 mary: Does the potter intend them to look so Asian? 00:45:18 James Eastman: dancers 00:46:01 Lisa Mayotte: You can see movement in their stances. 00:46:09 Lyn: Be interesting to see what the artist would chose for music to go with it. 00:46:09 stephmcnally: Do the packs on their back have any meaning or is it just part of their hero costume? 00:46:35 Rafael Tarrago: Similar facial features and similar robes tell us they are twins. The concept of heroes is expressed by their poses and royal like robes. They seem inspired in the uniforms of Star Wars soldiers. Much in them reminds me of Marvel heroes imagery. 00:46:36 deboralynch-rothstein: no weapons, martial arts style poses? 00:46:44 Rafael Tarrago: Rafael 00:47:55 Therese: can you spell fashion design label 00:48:23 Jan Heasley: it's on his website 00:48:54 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): Indigene 00:53:38 Gordy and Maggie Rosine: I loved the video and watched it 3 or 4 times ! 00:53:46 Kit Wilson (she/her): Love the aspect of world building … 00:53:50 Bruce Robbins: Such a strong presence in the gallery! 00:53:59 Vicki Klaers: If you see the video the dancers look like they’re dressed in thin foil and they merge together beautifully. 00:54:10 Jennifer: Attire appears like it could be either futuristic or ancient 00:54:13 stephmcnally: sharp angles of the clothing and pieces sticking out from their collars 00:55:24 maryannwark: the drum beat helped 00:55:38 Manju Parikh: Ye! 00:56:23 mary: Amazing that they look so strong structurally but are actually pretty fragile with those thing walls! 00:56:24 Lisa Mayotte: Couldn't be coincidental! 00:56:25 Kathleen Steiger: how long is the video? I will need to take a gallery stool... 00:56:44 mary: thin walls….not thing 00:57:30 lindathain: Does anyone remember the native woman artist who had a similar idea? 00:59:38 lindathain: Does anyone remember an artist who had several works at Mia in the past who also projected her native american culture into the future? 01:02:30 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): Steph, I'm not sure if the packs on the back of Jagg and Gage have a particular use. I just took them as part of the outfit of a starship pilot. He was also very influences by Star Wars and Star Trek. 01:02:59 stephmcnally: Thanks so much, Kara! 01:03:05 Sue Hunter: the colors everywhere 01:03:15 Jennifer: I noticed the symmetry 01:03:18 Manju: beautiful intricate work 01:03:19 Lyn: I was drawn to the center of the red winged blackbird(?) 01:03:20 James Eastman: Follow the stems… 01:03:22 Jena Lange: frogs and fish first, then eyes move up 01:03:22 Vicki Klaers: I was drawn to the dots! 01:03:23 Kay Quinn: Animals first, especially birds - then floral - then earth 01:03:27 Bruce Robbins: I’m struck by the water line. 01:03:28 Jan Heasley: fantastical feel 01:03:29 lindathain: The roots at the bottom. 01:03:29 Lisa Mayotte: The colors drew my eyes to the quiet of the center. 01:03:30 maryannwark: I saw the bird in the middle with the red epaulet 01:03:34 Louise Hertsgaard: Eyes moving side to side with the symmetry 01:03:34 Therese: eye not drawn to one thing but the pattern of the whole 01:03:34 Bill W.: Colos.Patterns. Close but not exact symmetry. 01:03:34 Carreen Heegaard: high contrast 01:03:35 Andrew Hong: First drawn to the different types of birds 01:03:38 Kris Berggren (she/her): you can follow the reds, or the greens, or the blues 01:03:41 Kristin H.: So much to look at - so many details 01:03:45 Kathleen Steiger: I first saw the birds and then to the roots that support the plants 01:03:46 Kate Christianson: The distinct texture, like tiny beads of paint 01:03:48 Terry Nadler: Red leaves at the top. Then the roots bottom-center. 01:03:48 Cara Richardson: I started at the lily pads, moved up and out and around then back to the center. 01:03:49 john bordwell: Three elements:water, earth, sky 01:03:49 Manju: representation of nature - plentitude 01:03:50 Bryan J Peffer: separation oof plants and water 01:03:50 Gail Wong: noticed the water line 01:03:51 stephmcnally: I was drawn to the water and then from there all around left right and all over 01:03:54 Lyn: The balance is beautiful and delicate, just like the title. 01:04:00 Bill W.: Star center. Left and right. Then up then down. 01:04:01 Kutzi Priest: Everything leans toward the center, creating balance and harmong 01:04:04 Holly Stoerker: single bird in center. everything else has mirror image on each side 01:04:05 Therese: from roots up to the sky 01:04:06 Nan McRae: I feel sounds, the music and rhythm of the shapes and colors 01:04:08 Terese Edam: The more I looked the more I saw the tiny creatures 01:04:11 Bill W.: StarT center. oops. 01:04:12 mary: Like Grace Hartigan said, “your eyes can walk in and walk out anywhere…” 01:04:14 Kate Christianson: The dark background, with stars or fireflies 01:04:22 Jennifer: Eyes jump around, colors and details everywhere 01:04:28 Paulette: stars in the sky 01:04:31 nancykelly: The intertwining plants and beautiful colors so beautiful composed. 01:04:31 Carolyn Silverstein: I was drawn to the symmetry and the blue vines and plants. 01:04:33 patbowles: The dots remind me of stars 01:04:35 Margo: blue lines of dots and the red colors draw the eyes around 01:04:36 Sara (she/her): the clumps of red that seem to make almost a triangle 01:04:43 JeanMarie: I was drawn to the underwater roots first and swimming frogs. 01:04:48 Therese: the place of sustenance to the sky nurturing all plants and animals 01:04:50 Nan McRae: Love the connection w/Grace Hartigan 01:04:55 Rafael Tarrago: My eye was drawn first to harmony between plants and animals. The plants create a frame with symmetrical branches. The birds are placed in symmetrical positions like mirror images. All this creates the impression of a delicate balance easy to disturb. Rafael 01:05:00 maryannwark: heart shaped 01:05:03 Andrew Hong: Bottom up. Side to side. Then blur the eyes. Look for details later. 01:05:22 Therese: woven like a textile togehter 01:05:26 Carolyn Weiby: similar feeling to Grace Hartigan's Billboard - eyes moving back and forth, up and down. 01:05:30 James Eastman: surrounded by a ‘frame’ of universe 01:05:43 Wendi: For me it’s the bottom, roots, that got my first attention. 01:05:43 Louise Hertsgaard: There seems to be a border with stars surrounding 01:05:45 Bill W.: The fireflies were eyes looking back at me. 01:05:53 Lyn: Almost like a renaissance religious painting of balance and color 01:05:59 Therese: each little creature counts! 01:06:02 kellynitschke: almost as if you can hear the insects 01:06:11 richardlemanczykafka: The stipled points give a sense of the micro verse at the atomic level, and also the universe at the cosmic level. 01:06:25 Manju: pointilist? 01:06:35 Therese: all creatures are unique and special 01:07:16 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): Some info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tis 01:07:17 Maria Eggemeyer: an open space 01:07:25 Jennifer: Sort of impressionistic in style, tiny parts that make up a whole 01:07:37 James Eastman: Many plants with powerful medicine 01:07:57 Kristin H.: Dots like atoms 01:07:59 maryannwark: Beadwork— have to be connected 01:07:59 Manju: Abundance 01:08:12 Kutzi Priest: She connects the dots to create images! 01:08:15 Terry Nadler: Look at the painting from afar. Then walk in closer and closer. Perhaps one way to absorb the interconnectednes bit by bit. 01:08:15 Vicki Klaers: All living things are made of cells. 01:08:17 Nan McRae: Cells - as building blocks of life 01:08:19 Kris Berggren (she/her): no beginning or end, interwoven 01:08:28 Kathleen Steiger: Picture prop of beading techniques from books or web 01:08:37 Kate Christianson: everything treated the same 01:08:47 stephmcnally: i like the idea of following a line of dots around the paintings as they lead to new animals and plants - connecting one to the next 01:08:49 Cara Richardson: Dots are like each one of us, each creature, if you begin to take them away, the picture can fall apart. The dots together make the whole. 01:08:51 Andrew Hong: All nature are made of cells. Many cells will form a dot. That’s how the artist represents nature with dots. Maybe. 01:08:55 Kathleen Steiger: "All my Relations" 01:09:03 Bill W.: With no humans in the work, we are invited to place ourselves in the work. 01:09:04 Jennifer: Many particles create a whole. Living together in harmony to sustain life. Without each part we are left incomplete 01:09:06 Louise Hertsgaard: dots are what everything is made of, like atoms, or maybe even genes. Representation/ internalization of the external world 01:09:25 Nan McRae: Also the many tiny circles building circles of life, connected, relating 01:09:28 Carreen Heegaard: unified vision 01:09:50 lindathain: You need each individual dot or creature to make the whole a complete picture. 01:09:58 Regina Sindalovsky: separate dots make the whole picture 01:10:10 Carolyn Silverstein: All living things are filled with the great spirit symbolized by the tiny dots, and beadwork of the Metis artforms. 01:10:22 Wendi: The most impressive part of this work is richness of colors, richness of varieties of fauna and flora. 01:10:53 Cara Richardson: The viewer is the human. 01:11:06 Kristin H.: We are an outside force impacting the balance of nature 01:11:06 Terry Nadler: One thought, we the viewers are the humans and become part of the painting as we are viewing it. 01:11:15 Louise Hertsgaard: humans are there in the "made thing", implying their attempts to understand and interpret reality 01:11:20 Bruce Robbins: Humans are insignificant to the vast whole of creation. 01:11:21 Manju: Humans may be seen as a threat of specis. 01:11:26 Jennifer: Artwork is non-hierarchical and humans are the top of the food chain 01:11:43 Lisa Mayotte: It comes to life through our eyes. 01:11:47 Vicki Klaers: Humans are responsible for the health of all living things. 01:11:47 Margo: nature doesn't need humans to exist in all its perfection 01:12:01 patriciabartlett: Also the artwork exudes her appreciation and wonder of these things which makes her very present. 01:12:03 Jennifer: Every living thing is equal 01:12:09 Carreen Heegaard: intimacy 01:12:33 Manju: 25,000 species have been lost. 01:12:35 maryannwark: all rooted in mother earth 01:12:35 JeanMarie: I found my eyes circling up into the skies and then diving deep into the water. 01:13:19 Manju: Human activities have led to acidification, ocean pollution, deforestation.. 01:13:29 Andrew Hong: Humans are looking from the outside looking into nature. 01:13:31 Therese: maybe we need to reflect its their habitat first 01:13:45 Terry Nadler: Questions to ask the group: What do you like to see when you go on a walk in a garden or forest? Have you seen changes over the years when you take those same walks? Do you have some ideas as to why you haven’t seen some of those nature’s objects in recent walks? How does that affect your pleasure during your walk? 01:14:00 Jennifer: How could humans enter this environment without destroying something? 01:14:14 maryannwark: So beautiful— so why get rid of them? 01:14:35 Lyn: If we humans were to walk into this artwork, we would disrupt it. 01:14:41 JeanMarie: None of these creatures and plants are hybrids and these are endangered in multiple ways by climate changes and loss of habitat. 01:14:42 Manju: Loss of 1/3 of corals, 1/5 of all reptiles and 1/6 of all birds 01:15:04 Kathleen Steiger: How do we each destroy some parts of creation each day? Dow we use plastic bags? Do we drive rather than walking or biking? 01:15:04 Louise Hertsgaard: How would "you" want to represent or communicate or stand up for the interconnectedness of life? 01:15:05 mary: beauty all around us 01:15:12 Bryan J Peffer: as a cross current theme. we could as has the reason to to create art change over the years. 01:15:28 Wendi: How can we protect this beautiful natural world? 01:15:33 Therese: stop trying to control and dominate nature, manipulating 01:15:33 Cara Richardson: If you take one thing away in the picture, the delicate balance is lost. 01:15:46 Carreen Heegaard: what have you noticed more of in the natural world this year during the pandemic? 01:15:56 Manju: Elizabeth Kolbert, The Sixth Extinction (2015) 01:16:04 mary: every extinction affects all else 01:16:26 Therese: what about building, farming altering landscape 01:16:34 Louise Hertsgaard: What changes have you noticed in your lifetime in terms of animals, birds? Plants? Trees? 01:16:55 Jan Heasley: where are the fireflies? 01:17:43 Lisa Mayotte: The further you get from human presence, the more beautiful and detailed nature is revealed. 01:18:19 Therese: i love the way the plants veer to the sun the life source 01:18:20 Bill W.: Fireflies - little white dots with light brown auras. bottom left and right 01:18:57 Jan Heasley: I mean fireflies in nature 01:19:19 Bill W.: oh. notg around here anymore 01:20:22 Sue Hunter: we still have them out in the country 01:21:06 Regina Sindalovsky: How is this NOT the cultural appropriation? 01:22:32 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): Regina, I think we'd be saying it was cultural appropriation if the fashion house had just done their own version of that design, but instead, they worked directly with a Native artist on it. 01:24:35 Diana Beutner: Both Virgil Ortiz and Christ Belcourt can be followed on Facebook and Instagram 01:24:37 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): I think the point is that Belcourt also profited from that collaboration. 01:26:00 Josephine Owens: And not even ok for kids to copy as an art project. That was very eye opening for me as a teacher. 01:35:26 Manju: unfinished rough look 01:35:28 Terry Nadler: 360 view built-in 01:35:32 Vicki Klaers: The nails, holes 01:35:32 Anna Bethune: The nail sticking out 01:35:33 Jennifer: Monochromatic, yet very colorful when looked at more closely 01:35:34 Bill W.: Rough. Harsh. Elemental. 01:35:34 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): The guide is posted on the Mia Guide website, too: https://ipevolunteers.org/in-the-presence-of-our-ancestors-teachers-guide/ 01:35:37 Carol Stoddart: NAILS 01:35:38 Margo: interconnectedness 01:35:38 Therese: broken yet soulful 01:35:40 Naomi H: ragged, rough, harsh 01:35:43 Kathleen Steiger: cross shapes,, nails, splinters, 01:35:43 Pamela Ulvestad: weathered wood , rough edges 01:35:44 maryannwark: 3 crosses, red paint dribbles, texture 01:35:45 Meg Ubel: Lichens on the wood 01:35:45 Lisa Mayotte: Nails not all pounded down. 01:35:45 Kutzi Priest: Old damaged wood, just like us 01:35:46 Jennifer: assemblage 01:35:47 Sue Hunter: I see 3 crosses 01:35:48 James Eastman: The human touch 01:35:50 Elizabeth: The rugged wood itself conveys a strong message. 01:35:51 Alice Faribault: Weather wood—nails 01:35:51 john bordwell: A triangular form, like Renaissance works 01:35:52 Kay Quinn: old wood, nails like a crucifixion. 01:35:52 stephmcnally: reclaimed, you can imagine the artist placing all the nails 01:35:52 maryannwark: lots of nails 01:35:54 Therese: demands answers 01:35:57 Holly Stoerker: burned wood 01:35:58 Terese Edam: Some nails flush. Some not pounded in. 01:36:01 JeanMarie: Faded,stained,aging wood. 01:36:04 Kristin H.: Rough ends, unpounded nails 01:36:04 kellynitschke: movement 01:36:06 Therese: tired resigning 01:36:07 Margo: rough but not broken 01:36:07 nancykelly: I noticed the supports at the bottom of the sculpture and the interesting angles of the supports 01:36:08 Jena Lange: shaped in the outline of a cathedral 01:36:11 Brenda Wyley: Made from recycled wood 01:36:12 Kathleen Steiger: Religious aspects 01:36:13 Bruce Robbins: The hidden crosses… 01:36:16 Kris Bjorklund: Time has passed 01:36:18 john bordwell: reminded me of the Nkisi Nkonde 01:36:21 Therese: the trinity 01:36:21 Sara (she/her): strong, tall 01:36:22 James Eastman: figural 01:36:27 Anna Bethune: Really feel parallels with Robin’s bourgeois de calais 01:36:35 Anna Bethune: Rodin 01:36:37 Debbie: Scrap wood 01:36:52 Manju: uneasy 01:37:02 Louise Hertsgaard: Reminds me of a shipwreck - put me in mind of the middle "crossing" 01:37:06 maryannwark: fIRH 01:37:06 Gail Wong: somber 01:37:09 Jan Heasley: a quality of life being taken too soon 01:37:09 Louise Hertsgaard: death and rebirth 01:37:11 Lyn: I was awed and saddened by the holes (bullet holes)? 01:37:13 maryannwark: FAITH 01:37:13 Therese: i’m searching, it demands you to contemplate 01:37:13 Manju: reminded me of the cross and lynching 01:37:14 deboralynch-rothstein: supporting pieces at the bottom…humanized the work…i thought about feet.. 01:37:15 Jennifer: Pain, torture, destruction considering the material and construction, yet peaceful with the crosses 01:37:15 Gordy and Maggie Rosine: Ucomfortable 01:37:17 Terry Nadler: Sad and depressed. 01:37:19 Bruce Robbins: Searing pain 01:37:20 Vicki Klaers: Contradicitons 01:37:24 Anna Bethune: Structure significance of wood 01:37:25 Margo: sad, but also surviving 01:37:27 Lisa Mayotte: Shame for our past and sometimes present. 01:37:28 nancykelly: The worn jagged edges of the wood made me feel pain 01:37:31 Kathleen Steiger: awed, reverent, like praying 01:37:32 JeanMarie: I wondered if it has been placed any other place besides a museum. 01:37:34 Bill W.: Knowing the gospel hymn of the same name I can't view it without Christian theology coming in. 01:37:35 Manju: lynching? 01:37:36 Carolyn Weiby: Rebuilding 01:37:37 Andrew Hong: It resembles the crucifixion of Christ. With two thieves. 01:37:37 Therese: beaten down but with promise 01:37:37 rosestanley-gilbert: Endurance, re-shaping ides growth -failuree- growth 01:37:41 Carolyn Silverstein: Vertical thrust of wood suggests rising from pain to redemption. 01:37:44 Carreen Heegaard: My attempts at carpentry repair in my own backyard fence 01:37:47 Kathleen Steiger: resurrection 01:37:50 Mingjen: The revival of the discarded 01:37:51 Josephine Owens: Feels like rough crosses made on graves of the unknown or poor. 01:38:04 James Eastman: Soul survi 01:38:07 Cara Richardson: I thought of ship crosses bringing the slaves from Africa and the tree limbs used for lynching. But also filled with hope, rising from the ashes. 01:38:13 maryannwark: did he know the hymn? 01:38:22 Rafael Tarrago: This could be the scene at Calvary or Christians crucified in times of the Roman emperor Nero. But also the crosses burnt by the KKK in front of the homes or churches of peoples they wanted to frighten. These images are sad and outrageous. The Calvary image makes one think of the girls killed at the burning of the Church, but also outrage at the blasphemy of the KKK use of the Cross. Rafael 01:38:42 Lyn: The children were in a church, or sanctuary. It was the opposite for them in this horrible act. Using materials that are permanent gives the lost children a physical representation and perhaps a voice. 01:39:22 Terry Nadler: Notice to new-lookcing support boards at the bottom. Did Mia have to create this to support the work? 01:39:22 Anna Bethune: Feeling of being backed up - huddling together in a corner 01:39:24 Louise Hertsgaard: still standing -- burned but not destroyed 01:39:29 Jan Heasley: Compare the sculpture with the triangular shapes of new wood to stand it up 01:42:12 VICKY: I am sorry but I have to leave a bit early. This has been wonderful. Very full of wonder, as the girl said in the gallery, that Kara mentioned. Thank you all, Victoria (says my laptop has Vicky) 01:42:52 Rafael Tarrago: The use of discarded material makes me think of the Gospel allusion to the stone that was discarded but them became a cornerstone. In this work Minster uses discarded wood, but one could also use discarded boxes to create art such as the art books created by "cartoneras" in Chile. Rafael 01:44:18 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): I had not heard of the" cartoneras," Rafael, thanks for sharing. I'll look those up. 01:45:08 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): https://www.soulsgrowndeep.org/ 01:46:20 Lyn: Clothing and household items. What has been retained by museums has been the clothing of “importance;” worn by important people or for important occasions. The common experience has been ignored. For instance, women used to wear “dusters”, dresses for everyday, to wear cooking, cleaning or caring for others. 01:46:41 maryannwark: antisemitism in the Twin Cities 01:46:47 Terry Nadler: People who sacrified their lives for others without receiving recognition for it – teachers. 01:46:55 Debbie: Similar issue for Native Americans that were made invisible. 01:46:58 Kathleen Steiger: make hats from discarded material, like the hats that African American women wear on Sunday to church and the play called HATS. 01:47:06 Gail Wong: experience of the Japanese Americans in the internment camps during WWII 01:47:16 Cara Richardson: Not my story - but history told from the Native American perspective - use wool blanket pieces to make a collage. 01:47:18 maryannwark: first women to enter professions 01:47:28 Kay Quinn: example of hair sheared off in Auschwitz 01:47:31 Jan Heasley: what about the mass graves of native American children at boarding schools 01:47:32 Carreen Heegaard: Some stories are so deeply individual, they can only be told by the person themselves 01:47:33 Kay Miller: CCC young men who build infrastructure of America 01:47:47 Terry Nadler: Why is this considered a “work of art”. A lot of time was taken to build this heap of wooden posts/planks. I think of the song “The Old Rugged Cross”, which ends with the words, “So I'll cherish the old rugged cross (rugged cross) Till my trophies at last I lay down I will cling to the old rugged cross And exchange it some day for a crown” Which has some ironies or disconnects with “telling the stories of slavery and civil rights activisim”. The song’s words are from the White perspective, or could be interpreted as such. 01:47:51 Margo: Black women are mostly invisible from history. Use pieces of textiles, quilts, fabrics to tell that story? Or bowls and utensils? To show a common history of strong women that kept families together or sent family members off Or those left behind when others immigrated to the US. What happened to the relatives left behind? Textiles, utencils, implements, bits of homes, Or the women who never married and remained at home to care for parents, other relatives through the ages. Spinsters or old maids. Discarded bits of journals, clothes, everyday objects.. things that others would overlook 01:47:53 James Eastman: would like to hear more about refu 01:47:56 Elizabeth: His statements about "reusing" reminds me of what we called "depression area thinking" in my white family. 01:47:56 Vicki Klaers: My grandmother’s poverty in Norway that made her immigrate to America. 01:48:13 Kris Bjorklund: as a woman I often feel invisible. especially as I age 01:49:31 Fran Megarry: Older people may feel discarded and no longer useful. 01:50:08 Josephine Owens: This reminded me of 2 other artworks - https://www.famsf.org/blog/framework-anti-mass-cornelia-parker - this wonderful piece is an Art Adventure piece at the Fine Arts Museums in San Francisco. Made from the pieces of a burned church (arson). https://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/2018/dawoud-bey-the-birmingham-project.html - I saw these at the New Museum in New York. So powerful. Child of the same age as the child killed and then a picture of someone the age the child would be today. Makes the victims very real. 01:50:54 Debbie: A tragedy that happens over and over again 01:51:12 Andrew Hong: Police who died in the line of duty should be told and reminded what a sacrifice they have made . We need to appreciate and honor such bravery. Not enough mention for their deeds. 01:51:29 Terry Nadler: A gospel spiritual song. 01:51:45 Kris Berggren (she/her): From the rubble arises something new 01:51:49 Kutzi Priest: It’s “The emblem of suffering and shame” 01:51:55 Mingjen: A parallel of story of Jesus and the three girls 01:51:55 Lyn: Cross burning? Confirmation these girls lived and remember them. 01:51:56 Rafael Tarrago: I think that he uses the scene of Calvary to contrast the sacrifice of the godly and the blasphemy of the murderers. 01:51:57 Naomi H: brokenness, fire, 01:52:02 Jennifer: The crosses and materials are battered, splintered, burned and rusted as building materials from the church bombing would have been. The weathered materials also show the passage go time, but longevity of body. 01:52:02 Carolyn Silverstein: The crosses symbolize redemption after suffering. 01:52:02 Bill W.: The refrain of the hymn talks about exchanging the horror of the cross for the glory of the crown. 01:52:06 Antra Pakalns: Healing takes forever and we never truly recover from it. Antra 01:52:09 Meg Ubel: cross is an emblem of suffering and shame, as the gospel hymn says, but also salvation and new life 01:52:12 nancykelly: Because of his religious beliefs and the way the rugged crosses express pain and strength 01:52:15 Diana Beutner: Artist of the girls playing sculpture is Elizabeth MacQueen 01:52:21 David Fortney: Cross representing sacrificial death 01:52:30 Andrew Hong: Why only 3 crosses? There were 4 black girls were murdered. 01:52:49 Jan Heasley: 3 died 1 injured I thought 01:54:00 Rafael Tarrago: The three crosses are an allusion to the scene of Calvary in the Christian Gospels: Jesus and two men who were crucified at the same time. Rafael 01:54:12 Pamela Ulvestad: artist is John Henry Waddell of sculpture at baptist church 01:55:57 Cara Richardson: I absolutely love these three works and the many connections one can make between them. Thank you!! 02:11:54 Anna Bethune: Fabulous pieces 02:12:27 mary: these three relate well to both adult and student groups 02:12:58 Kristin H.: Excited to use VTS on Delicate Balance 02:13:00 Anna Bethune: How important it is what is next to a piece 02:13:01 Lyn: We were struck by not only the tradition of the artist’s culture, but also are focused on the future. 02:13:38 john bordwell: wonderful pieces. wonderful background info. 02:13:47 Kathleen Steiger: tour topics - story tellers, discarded or recycled materials (found objects), human imagination, spiritual matters 02:14:04 Louise Hertsgaard: Although the origin of culture of each artist predates the existence of "America", these are today all "American Stories" 02:17:19 Vicki Klaers: Is the October 14th only in person? 02:18:24 J. Lynn's iPad: Excellent training! Thanks! 02:19:07 Meg Ubel: Will you be publishing the chat later on the website? And all the links? 02:19:08 nancykelly: Thanks, this is very helpful. Nice to see everyone! 02:19:09 Maria Eggemeyer: Thank you, Debbi and Kara for all the work your doing. I’m thoroughly enjoying the sessions. 02:19:16 Gordy and Maggie Rosine: Excellent session 02:19:24 Lyn: Thank you all!!! 02:19:25 Fran Megarry: Great training, thank you. 02:19:41 Kris Berggren (she/her): Thank you - such good learning! 02:20:46 Kate Christianson: Wonderful learning opportunity today; thank you 02:20:49 Lisa Mayotte: Can you also send the list of new tours that you are suggesting? 02:20:55 Mingjen: Thank you Kara, Debbi and Sheila for the wonderful presentation ! 02:21:02 Connie falvey: Thank you Kara, Debbi and Sheila. Great session. 02:21:51 Kutzi Priest: Are Themed and Topic tours the same thing?