00:27:29 Naomi H: The quote helps me understand a troubled relative. 00:27:34 Carolyn Weiby: Feels like a combination of all three 00:27:43 Kay Miller: That trauma begins to look like dysfunction and likely leads to stereotyping 00:27:43 Holly Stoerker: trauma is integral to who we are 00:27:44 Jan Heasley: Seems like a frightening sequence 00:27:57 Lyn: It helps me understand myself, my family and culture. 00:27:59 Amy Burk: Powerful shift in thinking 00:28:02 Scott Appelwick: Very powerful and insightful 00:31:48 victoria neis: My role as a child life specialist in a pediatric medical setting is to lessen the potential trauma of medical experiences. To help them find coping skills. 00:32:08 Steve: Our daughter has occasional panic attacks while driving in heavy traffic. Is this trauma? 00:34:37 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): Steve, thank you for sharing. From what I know, there can be many reasons for panic attacks, so it would be good to seek out a medical professional for a better understanding of those and how/when they occur. 00:35:59 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): We'll share that video with everyone in the e-mail with the attendance feedback form tomorrow. 00:38:24 Kate Christianson: I highly recommend Dan Siegel’s recent book, Mindsight 00:38:52 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): Thanks, Kate--I'll add that to the session materials. 00:38:54 Kay Miller: I remember a long-term study by Dr. Garmeay at the U iof Mn n conjunction with Yale on risk and protectic factors.. it’s central finding: that the greater number of positive adults, the more resilient children became 00:39:05 Kay Miller: Garmazy 00:39:54 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): Thanks, Kay--I can share that and any other resources folks think of as well, in the website post. 00:40:33 Louise Hertsgaard: Dan Siegal is a professor of psychiatry and has written about Development and Neurobiology and neural integration. 00:44:39 victoria neis: Wise owl and guard dog- wonderful tour topic!!! Inspiring g 00:49:51 Vicki Klaers: On a tour a student crawled under a showcase. Now I think he felt a need to hide rather than that he was just being naughty. 00:50:22 Kathleen Steiger: turning away from the group, or shouting out wanting to be in control of the group 00:51:24 James Eastman: The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma Paperback – September 8, 2015 by Bessel van der Kolk M.D. (Author) 00:52:19 Mary Ann Wark: Also the issue of being not with their teacher but a new chaperone… 00:58:20 debra’s iPad: People are using the term “kid” a lot Hmm? I prefer child or student Comments? 00:58:28 James Allen: So if you're with 12 kids and one is having an issue you stop interacting with all the rest of the group until this settles down? 00:59:32 Mary Ann Wark: I want to be able to have the teacher not me deal with the student… 00:59:45 Kate Christianson: Softer voice, calling the child by name… 00:59:58 Lyn: Giving a child permission to wiggle their bodies to let it go sometimes helps. We don’t always know the words to describe our feelings. 01:00:19 Kris Berggren (she/her): I used to always offer my children choices - even simple ones…do you want to sit or stand? Gives them a bit of agency. 01:00:19 Elizabeth S: To take the time to talk to a student, it is nice to walk next to them while you move to the next piece to talk to them and connect 01:00:30 Lyn: Chaperones sometimes are disconnected or with only their own child. 01:00:33 Molly Opp: I find it helpful from the beginning to let the children know you’re eager to hear their ideas about the artwork and that there are no wrong answers or ideas about the art . This seems to set the tone that you are on their side and open to who they are as people. 01:00:41 Andria Fullerton: Distracting really works to deescalate an agitated student. 01:01:11 Josephine Owens: Do a pair share and you pair with the student and check in with the student. 01:01:27 victoria neis: What strategies in a group setting when a student has a question or has big feelings about something that feels validating but respects the group.example raising hands… 01:03:39 Carreen Heegaard: If possible try not to “shame” them in front of group. Pull aside and be a bit conspirator on their side. lots of layers, they won’t appreciate your authority with the same chat they have undoubtedly heard before. 01:03:50 Regina: ask a troublemaker for help carrying a flashlight, or ipad 01:04:25 Kay Miller: I know we are talking today primarily about student tours. I am interested in applicability to adult groups and way sin which this translates 01:07:59 Lyn: Does this mean we should be conscious of some art works triggering traumatic responses? 01:09:22 martha bordwell: “And” therapy. Validate and add, and what do you think you need to do right now, 01:09:51 Kay Miller: Very clear and insightful - thanks you! 01:10:12 Jeanne Lutz: Thank you very, very much! 01:11:00 Carolyn Weiby: Many thanks, very helpful! 01:11:03 Kate Christianson: Is there overlap between trauma and “distracted behavior” which we come across occasionally in student groups? 01:11:15 Kathleen Wanner: Thank you! 01:11:17 Maryam Marne Zafar: Informative discussion 01:11:26 Naomi H: Thank you very much -- very helpful and insightful! 01:11:55 Jeanne Lutz: And autism spectrum? 01:12:55 Therese: so very interesting - really appreciate the steps to deescalate situational behavior. thank you 01:13:45 victoria neis: Wonderful art and healing ❤️🌈 01:13:53 Kristin H: Thank you 01:13:54 Gordy and Maggie Rosine: Very helpful and interesting Thank you so much ! 01:14:05 Kestrel Feiner-Homer (she/her): Thank you everyone! 01:22:25 Lyn: Connecting 01:22:27 Margo Squire: cooperation 01:22:27 Boyd Ratchye: rapport 01:22:30 Kris Berggren (she/her): openness 01:22:31 Eileen Romain: safety 01:22:34 patriciabartlett: honesty 01:22:36 Sue Hamburge: confidentiality 01:22:37 victoria neis: Empower 01:22:38 Therese: safe space 01:22:38 Louise Hertsgaard: Willingness to be engaged 01:22:39 Andrew Hong: Paying attention 01:22:42 Monica Stuart: curiosity 01:22:43 Mary Ann Wark: being open 01:22:48 Kay Miller: curiousity 01:22:49 Tom Morgan: understanding 01:22:53 Emily Shapiro: Time to reflect on new ideas 01:22:54 Antra Pakalns: Honesty 01:22:55 debra’s iPad: Respect 01:22:56 Therese: no judgementy 01:23:06 JeanMarie: honesty 01:23:24 Kathleen Steiger: listen to everyone 01:23:29 Kay Quinn: Compassion 01:25:38 Maryam Marne Zafar: genuine 01:26:19 Andrew Palamara: This photo feels _____ to me. 01:26:36 Maryam Marne Zafar: curious 01:26:38 Monica Stuart: fun 01:26:38 Emily Shapiro: weird 01:26:42 Kris Berggren (she/her): dated 01:26:43 Kay Miller: conflicted 01:26:44 Lyn: conversational 01:26:44 Jan Heasley: akward 01:26:45 Tom Morgan: curious 01:26:49 Naomi H: sincere 01:26:52 Carreen Heegaard: familaiar 01:26:54 Mary Merrick: fun 01:26:55 Amy Burk: playful 01:26:55 Molly Opp: engaging 01:26:57 mary: puzzling 01:27:00 Boyd Ratchye: comical 01:27:00 martha bordwell: confusing 01:27:01 JeanMarie: contrived 01:27:08 Laurie Junker: respectful 01:27:08 Cara Richardson: whimsical 01:27:10 Andrew Hong: She has a curious face. 01:27:11 Kay Quinn: Provocative 01:27:12 Teresa Luterbach: theatrical 01:27:13 joyerickson: intriguing 01:27:13 Mary Ann Wark: amusin 01:27:18 Terry Nadler: Matter of fact conversation bwt 2 people. One with hand seems to be instructing the other. 01:27:21 Elizabeth S: Magical 01:27:24 Carol Stoddart: like street theater 01:27:46 Louise Hertsgaard: impromptu 01:27:55 Jeanne Lutz: I’m fascinated by the hand gestures of each person 01:28:09 James Eastman: Mysterious 01:28:27 Therese: prompting 01:28:27 mary: dog?? 01:28:51 rosestanley-gilbert: listening 01:28:52 Mary Ann Wark: The dog tells me nothing scary. 01:28:56 mary: he’s raking his dog for a walk and ran into her... 01:29:09 Naomi H: younger person explaining something to the older person 01:29:14 Terry Nadler: Woman explaining 15 minute sign 01:29:15 Colleen’s: Asking for directions 01:29:16 Lyn: I like the older man engaging with more theatrical person. Eye contact, passive gesture 01:29:16 Debora Lynch-Rothstein: they’re having an interesting conversation 01:29:19 Andrew Hong: Some commercial shoots 01:29:24 Emily Shapiro: He’s asking her why she is wearing a fake beard? 01:29:25 Monica Stuart: This person is asking a question, maybe asking for directions? 01:29:27 Carreen Heegaard: just another day in Santa Cruz … 01:29:39 Cara Richardson: she’s a theater student and having fun on the street. 01:29:39 JeanMarie: Inviting the man to a play or an event 01:29:51 Therese: 15 minutes of exacting fame 01:29:55 Kay Quinn: Woman provoking a reaction from an ordinary man walking his dog. He engages … 01:30:06 victoria neis: Love how he is undaunted 01:30:06 Steve: An actress on her way to work. 01:30:07 Teresa Luterbach: Person with beard is surprised to see her grandfather in this part of town 01:30:08 Tom Morgan: she is expalinning to him 01:30:08 Mingjen: The young woman trying to engage a passerby. 01:30:11 Maryam Marne Zafar: one asking “what’s up?” 01:30:15 Kris Berggren (she/her): old man makes a comment in a spirit of curiosity and younger person engages in spirit of openness 01:30:17 Jeanne Lutz: I’m also curious about the person in the car 01:30:19 Molly Opp: He seems open to learning more about what she’s doing 01:30:20 Tom Morgan: She is epa 01:30:25 Mary Merrick: inviting the guy to something public - look at the new sidewalk and the lawn adjoining it. 01:30:27 Margo Squire: the old candid camera show... 01:30:28 Carol Stoddart: she looks like she stepped out of the cast of Cyrano de Bergerac and is lost 01:30:38 Tom Morgan: explaining her looks 01:30:42 Carolyn Weiby: Generational exchange 01:30:44 Andrew Hong: Trying to get some donations. 01:30:46 Kay Miller: Improv training 01:31:18 Lyn: The sound of their voices would be helpful 01:32:10 Carolyn Weiby: Sign showing time restriction is interesting. 01:32:28 Lyn: Or is 15 minutes of fame? 01:32:33 mary: his body language suggests he’s willing to listen for as long as she tallks... 01:32:55 Carreen Heegaard: Same problem with texting and social media 01:33:16 Carol Stoddart: He does look relaxed, doesn't he? 01:42:03 Bruce (he, him): We need to take care not to project assumptions of gender, identity , or many other possible reflections. 01:42:36 Teresa Luterbach: repeat the question? 01:42:44 Jeanne Lutz: Talk about body language 01:43:00 Kay Miller: The body language and colors reflect such closeness and trust. 01:43:07 Eileen Romain: How do you think they feel about each other? 01:43:10 Jan Heasley: They look loving and happy 01:43:17 Teresa Luterbach: facial expressions 01:43:19 mary: this looks like a happy family. 01:43:21 James Eastman: Joyfulness of the human experience 01:43:25 Debbi Hegstrom: Recognize joy is also in our lives 01:43:26 Sara (she/her): happiness at what seems like an ordinary situation 01:43:27 Bruce (he, him): People seem happy! 01:43:38 Lyn: Some individuality 01:43:39 Therese: melting into each other individuals and one 01:43:43 Monica Stuart: ask viewers to describe how they feel when they look at this piece of art 01:43:46 Maryam Marne Zafar: Acknowledge similarities and differences, and where a commonality may be 01:43:48 Terry Nadler: They are wanting to dance! 01:44:00 Colleen’s: Cartoon? 01:44:02 Louise Hertsgaard: What do you think was happening just before this picture was taken? 01:44:05 Vicki Klaers: They look like they have a tight relationship. 01:44:13 Naomi H: Ask viewers for their own emotional response 01:44:25 Andrew Hong: Is there a purpose of showing their almost disfigured faces? 01:44:42 Therese: home 01:44:51 Colleen’s: Surrealist 01:44:58 Therese: the power of that space 01:44:58 Margo Squire: Ask them which person they most identify with 01:45:13 Lyn: I want to engage with them 01:46:06 Naomi H: How did the artist make this a joyful piece? 01:46:40 Guest: Why are their faces distorted? 01:46:46 Rafael Tarrago: They look happy and connected. 01:46:47 victoria neis: What story do you think the artist is trying to convey? 01:47:25 Andrew Hong: It looks like a happy family photo. 01:48:12 Lyn: The technique makes them more 3 dimensional 01:48:27 Carreen Heegaard: At times depression can make it hard to access any feelings and numbness prevails so it is important not to demand comment about a piece. 01:52:11 victoria neis: Love that your taking the time in the beginning of your to say that art speaks to us all differently and it is many times meant to stir us. 01:57:32 Monica Stuart: a lifetime of emotions 01:57:32 mary: beseeching eyes 01:57:36 Connie falvey: sadness 01:57:36 Rafael Tarrago: Calm 01:57:38 Lyn: She wants engagement 01:57:42 Kris Berggren (she/her): love 01:57:44 marywertz: Is the white space part of the artwork? 01:57:44 Laurie Junker: worry 01:57:45 Bruce (he, him): she seems focused on us 01:57:47 Margo Squire: a bit apprehensive 01:57:49 Gordy and Maggie Rosine: Don't dismiss me ! 01:57:49 rosestanley-gilbert: vulnerable but ready to relate 01:57:49 Sara (she/her): compassion 01:57:51 Pre K-12 Tours: she looks at peace, content 01:57:52 Mary Ann Wark: wisdom, not hurrying 01:57:53 Connie falvey: regret 01:57:54 martha bordwell: She is beautiful and wise 01:57:54 Andria Fullerton: She`s concerned 01:57:55 Colleen’s: Caution 01:57:56 Carolyn Weiby: contemplation 01:57:57 Louise Hertsgaard: She has wisdom to offer 01:57:58 victoria neis: She radiates wisdom and calm 01:58:00 Andrew Hong: She is feeling content and satisfying. 01:58:01 Kay Miller: She’s been through it all and has empathy and compassion for others as a result 01:58:02 Kay Quinn: Wisdom through experience 01:58:02 Therese: she is wise and wants to share 01:58:06 Emily Shapiro: caring 01:58:09 Antra Pakalns: Empathy, understand, love Antra 01:58:10 Barb Mikelson: she seems somewhat happy, but also wondering what we the viewer thinks of her 01:58:11 Maryam Marne Zafar: The expression of lived experience 01:58:12 Carreen Heegaard: could be almost anything 01:58:13 Mary D: Serene joy 01:58:13 James Eastman: Memories 01:58:14 Guest: contentment 01:58:18 Mingjen: Contentment 01:58:19 Carol Stoddart: I think she's thinking about a lifetime of experience, sorrow, joy, loss and love 01:58:20 Bill W.: Happy wisdom 01:58:26 Gail Wong: looking deeply 01:58:34 Teresa Luterbach: Look at me. I am human. 01:58:38 Eri: Forgiveness 01:58:41 Angie Seutter: like she's really listening to what I have to say 01:58:50 Boyd Ratchye: Curious and ready to feel happy-one remove from really being happy 01:59:02 Therese: i love i am human 01:59:17 JeanMarie: Looking at me, and I look at you with kindness 01:59:25 Kay Quinn: Eyes 01:59:33 Lyn: Rembrandt - depth of soul 01:59:36 Mingjen: I think it’s a reflection of ourselves 01:59:36 Kay Miller: Direct gaze 01:59:39 Bill W.: Eyes ... mouth 01:59:45 Pre K-12 Tours: the parted upturned lips 01:59:45 Boyd Ratchye: Half smile and open eyes 01:59:50 Louise Hertsgaard: wry smile 01:59:52 Kay Miller: wrinkles 01:59:59 Carreen Heegaard: we bring our experience to the interpretation 02:00:03 Teresa Luterbach: softness 02:00:06 Bill W.: nothing else to distract 02:00:07 Monica Stuart: soft smile and experience of face 02:00:08 Andrew Hong: The whole facial expression. 02:00:16 Therese: doesn’t shy from viewer 02:00:21 Lyn: Emerging 02:00:29 Colleen’s: Raised eyebrows 02:00:32 Maryam Marne Zafar: My great cousin - who is 102 - has this gaze when she is listening before carefully responding 02:00:42 Teresa Luterbach: do we actually know its a woman? 02:00:49 Kay Miller: Feels like the grandmother we’d want or wold hope to be 02:01:02 Carolyn Weiby: Position of her head 02:01:06 Laurie Junker: I think it’s all of these things! A lifetime of worry, joy, love, learning, and patience. 02:03:24 Kathleen Wanner: 3Cs 02:03:33 Andria Fullerton: Connecting with friends and listening to their stories 02:03:34 Lyn: To include an artwork that will connect us 02:03:35 Jan Heasley: to be able to read & respond to people better 02:04:10 Carreen Heegaard: I appreciate what you said. We are DYING to connect, keep that as our focus. 02:04:22 Monica Stuart: leading a tour is an opportunity to build connection 02:04:23 Kris Berggren (she/her): I really like how all of this trauma awareness does amplify our existing practice. Also I like very much the “open heart, firm boundaries” phrase as a way to think of tours and maybe general interactions! 02:04:27 Colleen’s: Please repeat the 3Cs 02:04:27 Cara Richardson: creating safe spaces for everyone in my tours, 02:04:29 Bill W.: Reading guests well .. letting those who want to talk have the space to talk ... and letting the quiet ones alone ... they may be quietly engaged... 02:04:32 Rafael Tarrago: Not to jump to conclusions when I see people talk. 02:04:38 Eri: How can we apply those skills in virtual tours? 02:04:44 Sue Hamburge: Think about the role of ‘partner’ to students/teachers/schools on SEL tours. 02:04:52 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): 3Cs: Connect, Calm, Correct (Problem-Solve) 02:04:53 Maryam Marne Zafar: Listen and … listen again … 02:05:18 Sara (she/her): connect calm correct 02:08:05 Carreen Heegaard: important to acknowledge the midwest and white older cultural preference for quiet- I come from a noisy family and can handle the fact that when someone is excited they may be louder and more expressive than is normal here in Mn. 02:08:07 Kara ZumBahlen (she/her): We'll be discussing some of these ways to connect via virtual tours in the next session, in discussing the Social and Emotional Learning tour. 02:08:43 Andrew Hong: You may have a group of very diverse mentality. Some are more challenging others maybe more normal. 02:09:12 Jeanne Lutz: Can we get the spelling of the artists’ names and titles of their works you showed us in your presentation? 02:09:15 Jan Heasley: thanks so much. This has been a joy 02:09:44 Jeanne Lutz: Beautiful presentation! 02:09:47 Sara (she/her): much appreciated! 02:09:56 Monica Stuart: Thank you 02:09:58 Emily Shapiro: Loved this presentation!! 02:10:00 Gail Wong: was great, thank you 02:10:02 Carreen Heegaard: Thank you both!! 02:10:04 Gordy and Maggie Rosine: From: Maggie 02:10:08 Boyd Ratchye: Informative and great fun. 02:10:11 Gordy and Maggie Rosine: So interesting 02:10:13 Kay Quinn: Exceptional 02:10:29 Barbara Edin: great information 02:10:31 Tom Morgan: Thank you Kestrel and Andrew! 02:10:54 Carolyn Weiby: Wonderful presentation! 02:11:16 debra’s iPad: You like the term docents rather than guides 02:11:18 Maryam Marne Zafar: Thank you for both insightful presentations. 02:11:49 Elizabeth S: Thank you to both our speakers! Great session. 02:11:59 victoria neis: Wonderful content Andrew In a position of power I often will say “I will do my best” to this tour experience 02:12:26 martha bordwell: Both speakers were very good. Thanks. 02:13:11 Therese: talk about connecting, you’re outstanding! thank you for your research and inspiration 02:13:20 Kris Berggren (she/her): Many thanks to Kestrel and Andrew. Felt uplifting 02:13:36 Mingjen: Thank you Kestrel and Andrew for your presentations. It is much appreciated. 02:13:52 Therese: boo hoo 02:14:04 Therese: last session